I was invited to participate in the FINDING THE WORDS podcast hosted by Ken Kinsley. I had a good time talking with Ken, and I’m so grateful to be able to have conversations like this from time to time. There were some ideas presented to me that I had not thought of before and some insights from Ken that I found interesting! If you’re like me, hearing a recording of yourself talking is both embarrassing and irresistible, deep down aren’t we all little naval gazers sometimes? Come and gaze at the naval with me: listen to the episode here or wherever else you find these things.